“People describe having kids as brief glimmering moments of beauty amongst a sea of pain. Whereas not having kids, it’s just lovely all the time.”

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“We are in the prime of our lives. We are smarter than we've ever been. We understand ourselves more than we ever have,” he went on. “We have the capacity to achieve a level of work and a level of communication and care for one another, and a lifestyle we can live with one another that we've never been able to live before, and we can just do that, and we don't have to raise a child.”

Seth agreed and said, “A lot of people have kids and they don’t even think about it…They just think that’s the next thing you do in life.”

Kelly then said, “People with kids, that’s what we call ‘me time.’ You have to carve it out.” Seth replied, “All the time is me. Why wouldn’t it be me time?!”

Kelly concluded by telling Seth, “I think that’s really awesome. And I think it’s so cool to not pressure people.” She also clarified, “I do love my children.”

Someone else said, “We've got a lot of humans in this world. Not bringing kids should also be celebrated. Especially if it’s not what you want. Intentional parenting is cool! Intentional non-parenting is also cool!”